Phil and Katie share the highs and lows of their journey to qualify for the Boston Marathon by 40 (while navigating the modern chaos that comes with life as a family of 6). Ridiculously candid and raw conversations about balancing the demands of career, marriage, parenting 4 children, life’s challenges, and training provides a refuge for weekend warriors, mother runners, or avid marathoners just trying do life and the sport they love. Life is a marathon so do it on the run.

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