Heaven, Hell, and Making All Things New with Ravel Podcast

In this episode, we take on a topic so big (heaven, hell, the final destiny of creation), we had to bring in the perspectives of our friends from Ravel Podcast–Emily Rettinghouse, Josh Lieuallen, and Stephen Henning. We break down what we were taught about the afterlife (kind of having amnesia in heaven about your friends and family who were in hell? And heaven being a neverending church service? Yikes!) in our respective faith backgrounds. We then discuss how our views have changed over time, our questions and doubts about why a loving God would punish people forever and about whether there even is an afterlife. All of us land in different places in what we believe now and how that affects how we live (Emily is clergy and she is very refreshing in how openness that she isn’t sure if heaven or hell exist), but all of us are connected to the idea of new creation, not just in some distant future–Jesus’ teachings about the Kingdom of Heaven invite us into the restoration of ourselves, our communities, and th