Can you make money and hold true to your values? Can you keep a profitable business “above board”? Jack Ellis and Paul Jarvis (co-founders) explore running an ethical, bootstrapped and privacy-focused company. They’re also sharing an honest and inside look at what it takes to create and sell their privacy-focused SaaS (Software as a Service) without any outside funding or Venture Capital. Every few weeks, they publish a lively and honest debate about all things not simply "black and white" when trying to do the right thing for profit, people and the planet. This is a podcast from Fathom Analytics (

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