71. Speciesism Isn’t What You Think It Is w. Marine & Nix

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We’re all together! Apologies for the audio quality as we kept moving and the mic picked up everything, but Mexie, Marine, and Nix from Pynk Spots got together in Portland to record this episode! We discuss the importance of being clear about what we mean when we say we’re fighting speciesism, as this has implications for how we proceed as a political movement. We also discuss the importance of making sure our anti-speciesist movements are actually political. We say often that veganism is not a grocery list, but are we actually treating it as more than that?



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* Pynk Spots YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFh3fDI2O4pYIurpRhnRzQA* Pynk Spots Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/pynk-spots/id1540391376



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F1:  [MUSIC] How can we not only discover more compassionate relations with human beings but how can we develop compassionate relations with the other creatures with whom we share this planet?



F2:  There’s an us before the wound, there’s an us before oppression, and to me pleasure is the way that we tap down into that.



F3:  We live in capitalism.  Its power seems inescapable.  So did the divine right of kings.



MEXIE:  Hey, everyone.  Welcome to the Vegan Vanguard.  It is Mexie.



MARINE:  And Marine.



NICHOLE:  And Nichole.



MEXIE:  We’re all here together in Portland.



MARINE:  Woo-hoo!



NICHOLE:  Woo!  Land of Antifa.



MEXIE:  Land of Antifa.



MARINE:  And BLM.



NICHOLE:  And BLM.



MEXIE:  Apparently.  People were real upset about it, but it’s beautiful.  We’ve been hiking in the gorgeous — I guess hills of Portland and yeah, just having a great time.  We’re here to talk to you today about speciesism and basically how we define it, and a lot of the problems with both the mainstream vegan movement, also the political vegan movement.  So, we’re really excited to talk about it.  Before we get started, I’m just gonna shout out the new patrons for this month, so thank you so much to Jeff, Adelle Goodman, and Nate Stringer.  If you would like to support the show, you can become a monthly patron donor at patreon.com/veganvanguard and for just $2 per month, you can join our bi-monthly political chats which Nicole is often present at.  I co-host the Discord with Kathrin and Mad Blender.  You can also give us a one-time donation on our website which is veganvanguardpodcast.com.  So, let’s get into it.



NICHOLE:  Let’s get into it.



MEXIE:  Let’s get into it.  So, the inspiration for this podcast came about — it was actually a few months ago, but I got a comment on the Vegan Vanguard Facebook which was quite upsetting to me.  It was upsetting to various other people because a lot of other people commented as well in support of what I was saying.  I can’t remember what the original post was.  I think it was actually a photo of a manatee.  I don’t know if you remember that, that manatee that someone had etched ‘Trump’ into or something like that, and I had posted about the connections between speciesism and white supremacy.  Someone had commented that that was ridiculous and that speciesism...